Part C: Managing Change Groups
| Site: | QSC |
| Course: | Q-SYS QuickStarts |
| Book: | Part C: Managing Change Groups |
| Printed by: | Guest user |
| Date: | Saturday, 23 November 2024, 1:38 AM |
Description
Lesson Description
Poll multiple controls at once using change groups and schedule change groups to automatically report their statusVideo Transcript
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Welcome back. We’ve gone over a variety of commands to change our controls via external devices,
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and one of the most common commands is to poll a control’s status.
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If you frequently need to poll a lot of controls,
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you’ll be interested in using Change Groups and Change Group Scheduling.
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One of the most frequent tech support questions we get is about how to use these features
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and its one of the main reasons we decided to make this video.
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Once we’ve taken you through this, creating Change Groups and Scheduling them will be perfectly clear.
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To keep this example as simple as possible,
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we’ll continue with our current design in Emulation Mode and issue commands using our Telnet session.
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First we need to create a Change Group, which will let us efficiently poll the values of both
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the Gain and Mute controls. We’ll use the “cgc 1” command, or “Change Group Create.”
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We’re labeling this Change Group as the number 1
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you could use any positive number of virtually any length,
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but only four change groups can be created per remote session so the number 1 will work fine.
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When you hit enter, the Change Group is created, even though you won’t receive a response.
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Next let’s add some controls into this Change Group. We’ll use the “cga” command, or “Change Group Add”.
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Type “cga 1 GainGain” and press Enter, and “cga 1 GainMute” and press Enter.
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Once again, there is no response to these commands,
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but you have successfully added controls to your Change Group.
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Now we can poll the change group to find out what all of its controls are currently set to.
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Type ‘cgp 1’ (or Change Group Poll 1) and press Enter.
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You will get a list of the Control Value responses for all controls within the group.
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This is what always happens the first time you issue a Change Group Poll on a change group.
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You will also see ‘cgpa’, which means Change Group Poll Acknowledge.
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Depending on how you’re using the data from this poll,
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parsing these acknowledgements may be burdensome,
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so there’s an alternative called “cgpna” or “Control Group Poll No Ack”.
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This gives you the same Control Values, but doesn’t include the ‘cgpa’ acknowledgement.
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But wait - not only did we not get that cgpa, we didn’t get any control values at all. Why?
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Well this is a good time to explain how Change Groups work internally.
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When you add controls to a Change Group, they are marked internally as ‘Dirty Controls’
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meaning that they have not yet reported their current status.
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Once a polling response occurs, every control is marked as a ‘Clean Control’
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and won’t report its value again when the next poll is requested.
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Only if someone changes the control, within Q-Sys or via an external control method,
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will the control be considered ‘dirty’ again.
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Let’s go back to Designer and move the knob to a different setting.
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Now go back to the Telnet session and type ‘cgpna 1’ and Enter.
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We see the Control Value for the Gain control but not the Mute button.
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This is because the Gain became ‘dirty’ when we changed it, yet the Mute button is still ‘clean.’
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And now that the Gain control value has been reported, it’s clean again too.
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So, Change Groups make it easy to poll a few, dozens or hundreds of controls with a single command.
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But, what if you need to have Q-Sys automatically send updates out without being sent poll commands?
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That is the purpose of Change Group Schedules.
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A Change Group Schedule is basically a timer that tells Q-Sys to automatically issue a
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Change Group Poll command to itself and return to results to you.
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This command is called ‘cgs’ or Change Group Schedule,
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but this command also adds that Poll Acknowledge response each time the timer expires.
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You don’t want to receive a “cgpa” report every 100 ms,
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so we recommend using the Change Group Schedule No Ack command instead, or ‘cgsna.’
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We’re going to poll Change Group 1, and we just need to tell Q-Sys how often we want to
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receive an update on this group. We’ll enter 100 for 100ms.
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This can be set as low a 30ms or as high as you want. A value of 5000 would represent 5 seconds.
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As the programmer of the control system, only you will know what to make this value.
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Your control system processor might be a little slow and you need updates to come less frequently.
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Or your system could be perfectly capable of receiving anything Q-Sys can throw at it
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and you choose the minimum of 30ms. It’s up to you and you can change the polling interval at any time,
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even after the schedule is already running.
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Alright, let’s press enter to launch this command. You won’t receive a response,
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but it worked. You will see that any changes to the controls within Q-Sys is reflected by ‘cv’
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updates reported by the protocol.
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These updates will continue to occur whenever any member control of the Change Group changes
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until the TCP socket connection is broken or you destroy the change group.
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The reason you might want to use multiple Change Groups
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is for when you want to poll different types of controls differently.
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You might not want to poll all controls at the same frequency.
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You might want to poll a meter value every 250ms,
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while you might only poll a Softphone Ringing LED every second or two.
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For these type of needs, just put your controls into different Change Groups
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and set different schedules for each change group.
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If you would like to mark all Change Group controls as ‘dirty’
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and therefore receive the complete list on the next poll interval,
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use the Change Group Invalidate command with the Change Group’s ID.
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The command for that is, you guessed it, cgi 1. Since our Change Group Schedule is running,
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you’ll receive a list of the current values of all controls in the Change Group.
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One other topic that should be mentioned is that you can restrict access to this protocol using the
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Q-Sys Administrator. As long as you have multiple users set up in Administrator,
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you can require that an external control inputs a PIN matching a User Account
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that has External Control privileges. Here, I have disabled External Control access on the default Guest account
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and added an Admin account with the PIN 1234. I’ll save this change,
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which will take effect upon the next new connection from a client.
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Here, I have opened a new Telnet session to my emulated design on port 1702.
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We can type “status get” and receive the expected response, but if we try to change a control,
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let’s use “control set value GainGain 0” and press enter. Aha.
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Doing anything of substance now requires logging in via an account PIN.
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I can type “login Admin 1234” and press Enter, and it tells me I am successful.
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Now I can perform all the usual tasks, as that login is maintained until the TCP socket is disconnected.
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Let’s try our control change again, [csv GainGain 0] … and success.
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One last thing to keep in mind that we mentioned earlier.
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ECP will timeout and close the TCP socket after 60 seconds of inactivity.
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it would be good practice to create a program within your third-party controller that issues a
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simple command such as “status get” every 50 seconds to prevent the port from closing.
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So that’s it for external control. You now have all the tools to control Q-Sys from the outside,
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and make it do your bidding, like your own personal … puppet.
Tips and Definitions
CGPA = Change Group Poll Acknowledge, a confirmation of the information requested
CGPNA = Command to ask for Change Group Poll without receiving acknowledgement
Dirty/Clean: When a change group's control changes, it's 'dirty' and will report its status at next poll, making it 'clean,' and will not report in future polls until it is changed again.